he is a very good debater. i tell him to have fun and relax and be himself because the truth is if he is the barack obama the country has come to know and trust he is going to do a great job. >> i tell him you had five boys. you learned to argue really well and make your point years ago. just go with that. >> that is first lady michelle obama and ann romney offering their advice to their husbands. president obama heads to colorado today. mitt romney has been here since monday night. with me now is former colorado governor billowens. the second of three colorado governors i have on my show today. let me start with the same question i asked governor hickenlooper. why is colorado a swing state? what do you tell friends and families and colleagues when they ask what makes colorado such a right down the middle state? >> it is one of the best educated states in the country in terms of college graduates it is the best educated state in the country. we really are a microcosm of the country. a lot of coloradoens came fr